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  1. Ami,

    Great post! You’ve used some excellent illustrations of your points.

    In the hands of a highly skilled poet, a cliche can be wholly original. As you say, though, recognize it, cut it, use something more original.

    Perhaps a bit on punctuation use or not for another post? And I’d like to read your take on that matter of what “sells” to a literary mag or periodical.

    Best to you today. Maureen

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  2. Ami Mattison

    Thanks, Maureen. It’s true that most “rules” for beginners aren’t limitations for more masterful poets.

    It’s interesting that you mention punctuation. Punctuation is certainly a hot topic among poets! I wrote some about it in this article but took it out because I thought I’d write a longer piece on the topic.

    And thanks for the great suggestion for an article on what “sells” in literary mags. I have some interviews with some published poets coming up and that’s a fantastic question to pose to them.

    Thanks for dropping by!

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  3. Hi Ami,

    Found your site through Leo’s critique in the A-List masterclass. Keep up the great work, love this post!

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  4. Ami Mattison

    Hey, Jeff! It’s great to meet another A-List member. And I’m glad you enjoyed the article. Thanks!

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  5. I LOVE the wealth of information here! I don’t care if mine sucks or not to other people! :-) ) I love doing it, playing with the expression of “stories” in my words. I have also learned a lot about myself while writing poetry!…But your post WAS somewhat comforting to me! What does THAT mean?! ;-) )

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    Ami Mattison Reply:

    I’m so glad you found the article useful! If you feel comforted, perhaps it’s because you’ve discovered that your poetry doesn’t suck! As I suggest in the article, there are significant rewards to be found when you simply love and accept your poetry for what it is–an expression of your unique creativity. Good luck and keep at it! The world can always use more poetry!

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  6. Rita

    Hi Ami–
    I wish I’d had this when I was teaching poetry to high school students! I particularly appreciated these lines:

    “If you think a poem is beautiful, if it moves you, if it makes you think and seems to speak some truth to you, then that’s a “good” poem.

    However, if you’re looking to publish your poems, then you’ll need to develop a sense of what critics and poets agree makes for good poetry.”

    I had so many students who could not get past the idea that if they loved a poem, it had to be a “good” poem. You did such a nice job of articulating how a person can both love and appreciate any poem while working to understand and create those that meet a different set of criteria. I especially appreciate the idea that there is value in sucky poems. I wish I’d been better able to honor that for my students.
    Rita

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    Ami Mattison Reply:

    Thank you, Rita, for your thoughtful insights. What makes for good poetry versus bad poetry is often made so complicated. What critics and teachers and those poets striving for publication often forget is that poetry is (at least in my humble opinion) about the sheer joy of language and what it can do. Sometimes, it’s just not about whether or not a poem is “good” by external standards. Sometimes, poetry is “good” simply because the act of writing poetry gives pleasure, comfort, and/or a sense of self-empowerment to the poet.

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  7. Nadine

    This article just highlighted in concrete terms everything that is wrong with my poetry. It just all seems so obvious after reading your post. My favourite tip on identifying if your poetry sucks is if you use phrases you have heard many times before. It’s such a simple piece of advice, but it’s so true! Sometimes we think a cliched phrase describes our feelings aptly, such as “falling in love”, “can’t stop thinking about you”, “the sun shines brightly” etc etc., but that does not mean that they make for good poetry. That stuff belongs in a diary. If you’re writing for other people, it has to say something new. Interestingly, recently I wrote a poem and had that helpless feeling – is this ok or does it just suck crap? – and then I read these tips and now I am more confident that it is an acceptable piece of poetry I would not be ashamed to share with somebody.

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    Ami Mattison Reply:

    Nadine, it makes me happy that you found the article useful. And congrats on writing a poem that you feel good about. But I wouldn’t be too hard on yourself. Sucky poetry–cliched, uninteresting, uninspired writing–is what comes first, and engaging in making that sucky poetry better is how we grow as poets and begin to write brilliant poetry. If you haven’t already read it, you might take a look at another one of my articles entitled “In Praise of Bad Poetry,” which discusses the creative value of “bad” poetry.

    Anyway, good for you for keeping at it. It’s all a process, and with continued practice, you’ll feel proud of your poetry and not simply unashamed but eager to share it with others. Thanks and good luck!

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  8. Wow, I’m glad I found your posts! I’m signing up for my first open mic tonight and now I’m convinced I should read my poem, whether it sucks or not :-) Thanks for sharing!

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    Ami Mattison Reply:

    Thanks, Kimeko! Good for you for making the decision to share your poetry! In my opinion, that’s a crucial step in making our poetry a lot less sucky. I hope your open mic experience went well. I’d love to hear how it went–your experience and how you felt about it. So, feel free to share that with us. Best of luck in your future performances!

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  9. season

    i have a poem and i dont now how to get it publish its called
    love
    roses are red just like the tears i bleed for you
    vilets are blue just like the tears i cry for you
    i told you
    i loved you
    and you
    knew it
    was
    true
    please send me a email if you like it at summerbernal95@gmail.com

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    Ami Mattison Reply:

    Thanks for sharing your poem. My suggestion is for you to write another poem and use the tips above. Also, there are writing and poetry communities online. You can join, share your work, and get feedback. Just run an internet search. Good luck!

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  10. I found your blog/this post (in a Google Blog search for Bad Poetry) instructional and resonant. Ah, quality, original content. Thanks.
    Jennifer´s last [type] ..The ApproachMy Profile

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    Ami Mattison Reply:

    Thank you, Jennifer, for your kind words. It makes me happy that you found the article useful and original!

    Happy New Year!

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  11. John

    “You are not alone” is not passive voice. It is an equational sentence where the verb be links the subject “You” and complement “alone.” A passive sentence promotes the grammatical object to the subject position and the subject is demoted to an optional by-phrase; the verb is inserted and inflected and the erstwhile inflected lexical verb takes on the past participle form. For example, He ate cookies > Cookies were eaten by him. This can only be done with transitive verbs–i.e., verbs that take a grammatical object. The verb be is not transitive.

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  12. Sooze

    WOW! I’m screwed! I also found this article with the google search: “how do I know if my poetry doesn’t suck?” I actually like the first poem’s first four lines! I worry about structure and rhyming but only after I get the thoughts down.
    I’ve written for years – VERY VERY Private stuff to me. NO ONE had ever read any of them. I write to help me when I’m in a bad way, usually – to help myself understand what’s going on in my brain, or figure out HOW it is I really feel. Sometimes the writing has helped me to forgive. That is what happened with a poem I wrote about my nephew. Two years ago he – a minister until just previous to the act – committed suicide & I shared one of my writings with my sister to see if it could help her, too. She embarrassed me by reading it ALOUD & to over 100 people at Steven’s Life’s Celebration, where I got a standing ovation. She had it printed & framed for me – I stuck it in my closet!!!! I NEVER thought to share ANY of them and still probably wont – except the one that is already out there…

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